Why has there been such an angry backlash from Wigan Athletic supporters on Owen Coyle’s appointment?

Well, it seemed to take an eternity for Roberto Martinez to finally go and the recruitment process to begin. Things seemed to be perking up when we heard about a quality field of applicants for the position. Our hopes were building up. But there was a warning sign when Dave Whelan said that he was focusing on managers currently out of work. That cut out some more exciting possibilities and narrowed down the field.

Then the announcement came through that the ex-Bolton man had been appointed. That was when so many supporters hit the roof. Why such a reaction?

Do  people simply not believe that he is the man to get Wigan Athletic back into the Premier League? Or is the impression that Whelan was trying to do things on the cheap? Or is it that Coyle worked up the road in Horwich for three years until he left Wanderers last October?

I had been pondering over this for  days now. My initial gut reaction to Coyle’s appointment was not positive, but when I saw what was being said on the social and electronic media it was quite shocking. Logic told me that Coyle had done a wonderful job in bringing a Burnley squad up from the Championship on a low budget. Moreover they were a joy to watch and would have surely stayed in the Premier League had Coyle not jumped ship half way through the season. Surely he can do it again at Wigan.

“I have tried to stay away from managers who are in work at the moment because there is a fee involved with those.”

That quote from Whelan prior to Coyle’s appointment did nothing to relieve the anxiety of Latics fans who had been swept into a whirlpool of emotion over these past weeks. The ecstasy of winning the FA Cup was combined with that sinking feeling of dropping down a division, with so many players out of contract. The ‘will he-won’t he’ of Martinez’s move to Everton dragging on followed by the harsh realization of his departure.

The media have provided enough ammunition for fans to believe that Whelan really was doing things on the cheap. Reports say that Coyle has been appointed on a one year rolling contract, with a bonus if the club gets promotion. The cynics are saying that Whelan did not want to pay the kind of salary Steve McClaren would demand. It fits in with his penny pinching over compensation payments for managers already under contract.

There was frustration building up among supporters for all these reasons.

Yesterday my wife and I were discussing the traditional rivalry between Wigan Athletic and Bolton Wanderers. She reminded me of a trip we took to the Malaysian island of Langkawi last year. We had just checked into our hotel in that tropical paradise, taking a walk through the neighbourhood. We had only been walking for a couple of minutes when I saw it. A bar with ‘Bolton Wanderers’ plastered all over it – a truly incongruous sight in south east Asia. My wife reminded me that I refused to go there for a drink, even if though it was so conveniently close to the hotel. What was my problem with Bolton Wanderers?

So was it that Coyle was at Bolton that rankled with myself  and fellow Latics supporters? Wigan and Bolton are neighbouring Lancashire towns with a similar way of life. Growing up in Wigan I was never aware of any enmity between the two towns or their populations. Mind you in those days Latics were a non-league team while Bolton in the higher divisions of the Football League.

I first went to watch a Bolton game in 1976, albeit inadvertently. My father and I had taken a football bus to watch Latics play in the Manchester area, against Altrrincham I think. As we were nearing the ground we were told that match had been postponed. The driver asked the people on the coach if they would prefer to go back to Wigan or to go to watch a match somewhere else. We ended up watching a Second Division match between Bolton and Charlton.

It was pretty grim in the rain at the aged Burnden Park. Ian Greaves’ Bolton side had a couple of rugged central defenders in Paul Jones and Sam Allardyce, with a skilful young midfield player in Peter Reid. It was not only the weather that was grim – the football was too – the long ball being the order of the day. It was typical that the game be settled by a header from Jones, after he and his corpulent central defensive partner had gone up for a set piece.

How ironic that Allardyce should go back to Bolton as manager, 23 years later, and promulgate that same style of football, if not worse . A “Bolton goal” was to become a common expression for football commentators and journalists. To be fair, Allardyce was shrewd in bringing in quality players who were a little bit past their best, but were very influential. He was to lead his club to eight years of unprecedented success with his ugly football.

Under Roberto Martinez,  Wigan Athletic reached the heights and plummeted to the depths. However, his legacy will remain one of good football. That is not something that can be said about Bolton.

Owen Coyle tried to improve their style, but his hands were tied with the players he had inherited. Like Martinez in his last season at Wigan, Coyle had some terrible luck at Bolton. Injuries to key players at crucial times, plus that terrible situation with Fabrice Muamba. There is a fine line between success and failure that often depends on getting the rub of the green and keeping key players fit.

Owen Coyle is a charismatic, intelligent manager who believes in attacking football. He can do a great job at Wigan Athletic.  He is much more suited to taking over at Wigan with the Martinez legacy, than he was at Bolton trying to change the style at a club that had been playing ugly for so long.

At Wigan we have grown accustomed to good football, even if the results have not always reflected the quality of the football. I suppose my frustration with Bolton over these years has not been the club itself, but the manner in which its teams have performed. My mistake was to mentally label Coyle with Bolton. For him it was guilt by association, rather than by action.

Once the emotions die down Wigan Athletic fans might well get to appreciate Owen Coyle. He could be an inspired appointment.

thanks to Jakarta Jack at the threeamigoswigan.com website

“I have tried to stay away from managers who are in work at the moment because there is a fee involved with those.”

So said Dave Whelan, according to a report from a national newspaper on Wednesday.

It seemed a strange thing to say, but maybe the comment was taken out of context.

True that having to haggle with another club about compensation could delay the appointment of a manager. True that haste is a necessity with Wigan needing to get things moving again, with so many players leaving the club. But then again, is Whelan seriously baulking at paying maybe a couple of million to get the right man?

If this is the case it rules out young, exciting prospects such as Karl Robinson and Gus Poyet, together with alternative candidates like Rene Meulensteen if he remains under contract. Given reports saying that Whelan will be naming the manager before the end of the week, the field now seems to have to narrowed down considerably.

It is probably for such reasons that the bookmakers currently rank Owen Coyle and Steve McClaren as the prime candidates. Both are experienced managers who can do a good job, given the right resources and the backing of the chairman. However, like any other experienced football manager, each has has ups and downs in his career.

Appointing an ex-Bolton manager, known for his “uber confidence”, might not go down well with some Latics supporters. Owen Coyle was released by Bolton in October 2012, after a roller-coaster ride with them. He had joined Bolton in controversial circumstances, leaving Burnley mid-way through the 2009-2010 season.

After doing a good job at St Johnstone, helping them reach the Scottish Cup final, Coyle had taken Burnley back into the Premier League. Burnley were playing some exciting football and it looked as though they would finish around mid-table. Sadly Coyle’s untimely exit led them to be relegated that same season.

When Coyle arrived at Bolton in January 2010 they were in relegation trouble, but he managed to get them into 14^th place by the end of the season. The 2010-2011 season saw Bolton rise up the Premier League, seemingly challenging for a Europa League place in the early  months. It was even said that his team were playing good football, despite the legacy of the previous regimes of such as Sam Allardyce and Gary Megson. However, there were those who could provide statistics to suggest that this was not the case.

Ironically it was Coyle’s success in helping his club reach the FA Cup semi final that was to lead to his eventual demise at the club. After losing 5-0 to Stoke at Wembley in April 2011 results took a steep downturn, Bolton once again finishing in 14^th place, despite their early season promise. The poor form continued in the 2011-12 season, leading to them being relegated. It had been a very difficult time for the club, with Fabrice Muamba suffering a heart attack during a match in March 2012.

Despite relegation, Coyle continued as manager until October 2012. Around the time of his departure from Bolton a Guardian article, relating to Coyle's tenure there,  quoted a fan as saying "(His)signings haven't worked out, some of his team selections are hard to understand and he often sends out sides that are set up to attack rather than stop the opposition playing, but if you had to name one principal failing it is that he doesn't appear to know how to set up a defence or stop leaking goals.”

While Owen Coyle might be regarded as a manager who espouses attacking football, Steve McClaren’s approach has tended to be more conservative, based on solid defence. After being Alex Ferguson’s assistant at Old Trafford for two years, McClaren did a wonderful job as Middlesbrough manager from 2001-2006, winning the League Cup, reaching the UEFA Cup final and two FA Cup semi finals.

Despite his considerable success at the north east club, McClaren was never well loved there. A WSC article from September 2006 entitled  "The anonymous man" provides a fascinating insight into the connection between the man, the club and its supporters.

McClaren took over as England manager in August 2006. It turned out to be a poisoned chalice. He was mercilessly attacked by the public and the media after poor England performances, including the failure to qualify for Euro 2008. He lasted 16 months in the position.

McClaren took over as manager ofl Dutch club FC Twente in June 2008. FC Twente was based in Entschede, a town of around 150,000 in population. They had never won the Dutch league since their formation in 1965. In his first season they finished second in the Eredivisie and progressed to the latter rounds of the UEFA Cup. In the following 2009-2010 season they won 16 of their 17 home games and lost only two away. They were to win the Eredivisie, finishing a point ahead of Dutch giants, Ajax Amsterdam.

McClaren then went on to brief spells at Wolfsburg and Nottingham Forest before returning to Twente in January 2012. However, despite a good start things did not work out as well second time around and McClaren left in February 2013.

Both Owen Coyle and Steve McClaren are experienced and accomplished managers. Their approaches are contrasting.

Following four years of shaky defences under Roberto Martinez, Dave Whelan might look towards McClaren to provide the kind of defensive stability required to get Latics out of the Championship Division. On the other hand he might stick his neck out and go for the more effervescent Coyle.

Coyle and McClaren are as different as chalk and cheese, not just in personality but in footballing terms.

Only time will tell if Whelan makes the right decision in finding the right kind of personality and football manager to guide Wigan Athletic back into the Premier League.

thanks to www.threeamigoswigan.com

The latest bookmakers’odds for the vacant Wigan Athletic manager position put Karl Robinson and Gus Poyet neck to neck. One never knows how much inside information the bookmakers can get their hands on, but you can bet your bottom dollar they have something to go on.

When I first heard of Robinson’s candidacy I was skeptical. A non-league journeyman who took over at MK Dons. But the more I hear about him, the more impressed I am. In  terms of coaching qualifications few in England can match him. His teams are renowned for their good football. The appointment of a 32 year old Liverpudlian might go down well with Latics supporters.

For me, Gus Poyet is an outstanding candidate. He only came to the Premier League in his latter years as a player after having great success as a midfield goalscorer  over seven years for Real Zaragoza. He was to go on and become a top player for both Chelsea and Tottenham in his late twenties, early thirties.

The Uruguayan lacks the sublime PR skills of Roberto Martinez, but in so many ways would appear to be his natural successor. His Brighton team played “Latics-like” football last year. My great old university friend, Tim Attree, a Brighton fanatic, first talked about with me about Poyet coming to Wigan a year ago, when Martinez  was courting Liverpool.  He told me how much Poyet had transformed Brighton and how he loved the football they played. He is devastated that Poyet might leave.

Poyet lead his team to the League 1 title, then to the mid table in the Championship, then to the  play-offs.

During the past four years Roberto Martinez insisted on a level of football that many other  clubs in the Premier League made no effort to strive for. The culmination was a wonderful FA Cup Final win, against the odds, but without negative tactics, playing stylish  football.

Steve Bruce has been mentioned as a possible contender for the position. In his first two spells at the club he did a great job. His football was pragmatic, not pretty to watch,  but was the order of the day.

The prospect of someone like Robinson or Poyet coming to Wigan and continuing where Martinez left off is mouth-watering.

Whatever his faults, Martinez left a legacy of good football at Wigan. It is something to be built upon, rather than destroyed for the sake of expediency.

Both Robinson and Poyet represent the opportunity for Martinez’s wonderful football legacy to continue

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It’s amazing how the fickle lose faith. The exhileration of that epic cup victory has worn off and the grumblers have already started to stick their knives in the back of Roberto Martinez. What a transformation in a couple of weeks.

Martinez always had his critics. But then again his self belief and resilience made it hard for them to get on top. He stayed calm and dignified even in the darkest of hours. Like him or loathe him, for goodness sake wish him good luck in his next job.

There are Everton fans who wanted a more high profile manager. They will make Martinez’s life a misery if he does not have immediate success. David Moyes has been lauded for having his team punching above their weight, but the football during his tenure has not compared with that of the club’s past history. Moreover one could debate the value that Moyes added.

The Premier League is financially tiered. In simple language you usually get what you pay for. Everton are not going to win the Premier League under any manager if their financial situation remains the same. They are in the third tier, which is going to place them in a better part of the top ten. The top three – Manchester United, Manchester City and Chelsea – have wage bills way above anyone else. The quality of their squads is such that challengers on lower wage bills – like Arsenal and Tottenham – have to perform at near maximum potential to challenge the elite.

David Moyes’ teams at Everton might have punched a bit above their financial tier level, but not by much. Manchester United fans can expect less attractive football next year and will probably rebel.

When Roberto Martinez arrived at Wigan Athletic he was immediately surrounded by budget cuts. Players on bigger salaries were sent off, with more to come at the end of his first season. Steve Bruce had done a wonderful job of keeping them in the Premier League, but at a cost.

It amazes me that Martinez can be criticized for not keeping the club in the Premier League. In reality, with the budget he had, every year was a bonus.

Martinez kept Latics in the Premier League – on a low budget - for three consecutive seasons. In his fourth he couldn’t quite manage to do that, but he brought the FA Cup to Wigan. Moreover they played a quality of football never seen before by Latics supporters.

My message to all who love Wigan Athletic – give Martinez a graceful exit and do not pre-judge his successor.

Dave Whelan has a difficult appointment to make. I have already heard comments about top managers who are contenders for the manager position. Some of those are quite depressing.

Let’s be realistic. For Wigan Athletic to receive applications from such a strong field of applicants is way beyond what they have had before. Phelan, Meulensteen, McClaren, Coyle, Poyet – all have much to offer. Either one could do a great job, with the support of the owner, the players and the crowd.

I was so proud that Wigan Athletic won the FA Cup. Even my southern wife, who never liked football, was in tears when Ben Watson’s goal went in. It was one of the happiest times of my life.

I have watched Wigan Athletic through the Lancashire Combination, Cheshire League, Northern Premier League, then through the ranks of the Football League to the elite Premier League. A transition year is coming, but Latics will stay in good stead if Dave Whelan remains.

You have to believe to be a Latics supporter. Most supporters love the club and support whichever manager is appointed. One hopes that Whelan’s impending appointment will be supported.

Roberto Martinez has been not just a football manager, but a wonderful ambassador for the club and its supporters. Negative press about him at this stage is off the mark. Let him go with dignity and let him show what he can do with a bigger club with greater resources.

thanks to jakarta jack from www.threeamigoswigan.com

In 1964 non-league Wigan Athletic did so well to reach the big round of the FA Youth Cup and were drawn away at Everton. It was a wonderful achievement for Latics’ youth team to get to that stage and it captured my interest.

My friend, Melvyn, knew Vic Gaskell, Latics youth team goalkeeper, and badgered me to go with him to Goodison Park to watch this mid-week match. Barnes Travel Agents on Market Street, near Queens Hall, must have been owned by a Latics fan because they always laid on coaches for Latics games, no matter where – Bacup, Congleton, Oswestry, Darwen - to name a few gems. But then again to put on a trip to Everton for a youth match – surely not. But they did.

I had never been to a First Division ground before and I was impressed with Goodison Park. It was built as one of the first football-specific grounds in 1892. In the early 1960’ s Everton were known as the ‘Mersey Millionaires’ through the money that chairman John Moores put into the club. Moores himself had been responsible in founding Littlewoods Pool Company, the forerunner of modern day football gambling.

In 1964 Everton were flying high in the First Division, well above their city neighbours. They were known for their good football. Wigan Athletic’s youth team, composed of amateurs was to play an Everton team of apprentice professionals.

Poor Gaskell in goal did not know what had hit him. Wingers Stuart Shaw and Aiden Maher, tore Latics apart with John Hurst being the complete centre forward. Hurst went on to play near on 400 matches for Everton, but as a defender. Shaw and Maher never made it at the top level. Latics were to concede 12 goals. Everton were to win the FA Youth Cup.

This memory came into my head after reflecting on Roberto Martinez’s decision to leave Wigan Athletic. We recall the meeting between Martinez and Dave Whelan, after which the chairman mentioned Martinez’s concern about investment in youth. Then on the second meeting we heard that Martinez was given permission to talk to Everton, but nothing about the youth programme.

Wigan have moved on from putting out a non-league youth side, getting predictably flattened by a First Division side full of apprentice professionals. However, the club continues to punch below its weight at youth level.

Martinez was right in his assistance in investment in facilities and staffing of a youth development programme. It continues to be the club’s weak point.

So what is going to happen to the youth programme? Will it get skuppered in the financial meltdown that represents bowing out of the Premier League?

Roberto Martinez will undoubtably want to improve Everton's youth system. It is ironic that rumours suggest he wants to take Callum McManaman back to the club he played at as junior.

Norwich City deserve great credit for not only securing Premier League security, but winning the Youth Cup in style, beating giants Chelsea in the final. A terrific achievement.

Wigan Athletic face new long-term challenges after being relegated from the world’s most elite league. Most of the clubs in the Championship have bigger fan bases and Latics are going to have to punch above their weight to challenge for promotion. In the past Whelan’s financial support has made the difference. However, the time has come for the club to be self sufficient.

Conversely, it is going to take a major investment from the Latics owner to put in an infrastructure that will help the club produce home-grown players who can safeguard the survival of the club.

Dave Whelan is 76 years old. Wigan Athletic would be nowhere without him. The question is – how much more is he willing, or able, to do?

thanks to jj from www.threeamigoswigan.com